It seems surreal, the way the dean responds to questions and doesn’t get that the journalist is talking about setting up a student organization to invite an ISIS member to speak and even set up a training camp on campus. The journalist didn’t refer to them as ISIS. He kept talking about the “Islamic State in Iraq and Syria.” The dean, if confronted, might argue that if the Veritas journalist had just said “ISIS” he’d have answered differently. The video felt like one of those shock/scare/embarrassment comedy bits, like Punk’d or Scare Tactics. I felt like I was waiting for a punchline during the whole discussion.